Elon Musk: It doesn't take a PhD to change the world most of the time

The editors compiled the video of Elon Musk interviewed by YC partner Sam Altman. From the pre-judgement of the future to how AI technology can change life, from self-expectation management to time allocation, what new inspiration did Iron Man bring to us?

YC: We would like to talk about your views on the future this year and what direction people should go beyond. You have a famous saying. When you were young, you thought that there were 5 most important things to do in the world. Suppose you were 22 years old now. What do you think of the five things?

Elon Musk: First of all, I think that if someone is doing something that can benefit the community, it should be worthwhile. There is no need to "change the world." As long as people create high value, even if it is a game or help people to better share photos, if it can benefit enough people, even if it is only a small improvement, I think it is valuable.

But what is the greatest impact on future humans? I think AI or AI is something we need to take seriously in the near future.

Making AI play a positive role is crucial for the future. We have talked too much about the possible harm of AI, and now we need to really make it right. So, working on AI and confirming that it is “working correctly” is the first important thing in the future.

The second important thing is genetic engineering. If you can prevent dementia or Alzheimer's disease with genetic recombination, I think it will be very valuable.

In addition, trying to connect the brain will be very important, we are now the brain and the outside world's interaction is too limited (the brain's ability is not a good output), our brain's ability is more than email, computer, mobile phone or APP, we were originally Superman .

YC: There is a popular saying among young people nowadays: "I want to be Elon Musk". You are the spiritual icon of young people. What do you think did you do when you were young that made you have influence now?

Elon Musk: First of all, I have to say, I don’t want to be here. I don’t want to be an idol.

In fact, 25 years ago when I was in college, I started thinking about these five things: immigrants, aliens, sustainable energy, the Internet, genetic modification, and AI. Everything started when I was doing electric cars in college. At that time, I was internship. The task was to study whether the battery capacity of electric vehicles would make breakthrough progress. Later I went to Stanford to study for a Ph.D. The topic was also this, but in 1995 I applied to drop out of school and started an Internet company because I really felt that Internet technology was in a period of dramatic change, and I didn't want to be a bystander—I was also It is not certain that my research topic will work.

You can take a lot of professional doctoral degrees, but these may have no real impact on the development of the current world, and I asked myself over and over again "What is useful in the end", I just want to be a useful person.

YC: Do you need to read a doctoral degree now if people want to be a useful person?

Elon Musk: Most of them are not needed.

YC: What is the "useful" effective path?

Elon Musk: Only a few parts can work. Most of the way leads to failure.

YC: How can people find ways to maximize their value?

Elon Musk: I think you can estimate how much you want to do to improve the current situation and how many people you can affect. It either has a very large impact on a small number of people, or it has a very small impact on most people. The final calculation is actually the product of these two numbers.

YC: When you decided to start Space X, this move should look very crazy.

Elon Musk: It's crazy. I don't admit it. If you start a company to achieve the best controllable risk of return, then open this company was originally a crazy decision. But that was not what I wanted.

What I thought at the time was that if no one made any improvements in space science, people would be trapped on Earth forever. The largest space technology companies are not interested in making radical innovations. All they want to do is to make those old technologies become a little bit better each year. And the fact is that sometimes, technology will even get worse over time, especially with rocket technology. In 1969, we could get on the moon, and then the space station would only send people to the near-earth orbit. Afterwards, the space station retired.

People sometimes feel that technology will improve over time, but it is not. Only when wise people pay mad efforts will it become better. Without these efforts, technology will actually degenerate.

When you look at Egypt, the original pyramid construction techniques have been lost, and no one can read the hieroglyphs. The same is true for buildings in ancient Rome. There are too many similar examples in historical civilization. So I think we should always remember that the entropy of the universe is not on our side.

YC: I really like a bit of quality in you. Even if people are pointing to your nose and say "You're crazy," you're not moving - although I know a lot Crazy, but you are still the best one. Many people are questioning you, but you are very firm. I want to know where your strength comes from?

Elon Musk: I often feel scared - I think it's normal to be afraid. If someone doesn't feel scared, it may be that he has some problems with his spirit.

But I firmly believe that what I want to do is important enough. I have no hesitation about its importance. It makes me think it is harder to do it again.

When I founded SpaceX, I thought that the probability of its success was only 10%. It was the same when Tesla was founded. Actually, the probability of an electric vehicle company's success is extremely low, so I've done nothing. Fatalism is also somewhat helpful. Accepting all possible outcomes will make you better able to resist fear.

YC: Do you think standing today, how likely are we to emigrate to Mars?

Elon Musk: I think it's big.

YC: So when can I go to Mars? BTW, if I can come back, I still hope to come back.

Elon Musk: I hope I'm not blindly optimistic, but I'm pretty sure that establishing a self-recycling Mars colony is a possible outcome. I think maybe we can do it in 10 years or less, and I have to make sure that SpaceX doesn't die before this, but also make sure that I don’t; if I’m dead, someone will have to continue Sticks go on.

YC: You shouldn't go up first.

Elon Musk: The first one to go is a robot.

YC: You have published many opinions about AI. Can you describe what the future AI world looks like, and how can we get there?

Elon Musk: The best way we can look at AI is to achieve AI democracy, meaning that no company or small group can control AI technology. My concern is not that AI will have a sense of independence but that some people will use it for evil. This is why we are doing this OpenAI company. We want to spread AI technology so that it will not only be in the hands of a few people.

Of course, this is also to tie in with the high-bandwidth interface to the cerebral cortex. There are also cortical and limbic systems in our brains. The limbic system is like a native brain, in charge of your intuition and the like, and the cerebral cortex is responsible for the part of thinking. I think if we can connect the AI ​​well with the cerebral cortex, we can become "AI man" symbiont. And when everyone can become an AI person, we also solve the problem of AI dictatorship. This is the best result I can think of.

YC: OpenAI was established for 6 months. How is it now?

Elon Musk: I think it's good. We have a very good team (now about 40 people) and they work very hard. OpenAI is a non-profit organization, and generally non-profit organizations are not urgent, but OpenAI is not, because what it does is imminent.

YC: The last question, how do you allocate your time?

Elon Musk: Most of the time spent on SpaceX and Tesla, of course, will also try to allocate some time to OpenAI, about half a week.

Many people think that I spent a lot of time in media or business, but in fact most of my time - about 80% - is spent on engineering and design.

YC: I remember a long time ago you took me to visit SpaceX. I was very impressed that you know every detail of every project in the rocket .

Elon Musk: Yes, business affairs are not bad, but I prefer engineering and design. Both companies have specialized people who help me with the business of legal financial sales. I spend most of my time with the engineering team.

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